In reply to Dr. Fancypants.

I mean, they're almost certainly right about that.

In reply to fancybone.

Tom King originally pitched Woman of Tomorrow as a Lobo/Supergirl team-up, before his editors convinced him the story would work better without Lobo. He seems to think that his editors were correct in suggesting that change, but I guess DC thinks Momoa will put asses into seats?

In reply to jwz.

I think it was always more of a thing that the Kryptonians were just the folks who ignored Noah (Jor-El) as shouted about the world coming to an end. I think Zack Snyder brought eugenics into it, but (as with nearly everything from the Snyderverse) I only watched that piece of shit once and refuse to ever watch it again.

I do remember that in the first ep of the Dini/Timm show, it was Jor-El saying something to the effect of "We're evidence-based people - look at this evidence!" and the Kryptonians shrugging "Yeah, maybe, but this ChatGPT (Braniac) said you're wrong, so we're gonna go with that."

In reply to グレェ「grey」.

I am no expert on Superman lore, but I do vaguely remember Krypton being pretty fashy? Maybe this was from some of the cartoons and not the comics, though.

In reply to Kevin Lyda.

That might be an overly generous use of the word "fictional" insomuch as, Elon Musk, founder of Space X, is named after "The 'Elon'" (citation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Mars:_A_Technical_Tale#The_%22Elon%22) in a SciFi book by Wernher Von Braun (veritable WWII Nazi, subsumed into NASA with Operation Paperclip [citation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip%5D instead of going to trial at Nuremberg).

So, yes, Space X's Founder is named after something fictional, but the author of said (science) fiction, was a real Nazi.

For those who acknowledge that we are presently living in a dystopia replete with intergenerational (neo) Nazis with unhealthy fixations on space programs and that Space X subsumed something like one twelfth of NASA's 2024 budget? I mean, there aren't many of us, unfortunately.

The prevailing narrative in most media outlets doesn't mention such connections at all.

They're friggin sending another manned Moon mission right now with Artemis II!

Gil Scott-Heron's "Whitey on the Moon" was originally from 1970 I think?

How many people on Earth continue to subsist in poverty?

Last I checked, at least hundreds of millions struggle with homelessness (what the privileged euphemistically often refer to as: "houselessness" because they can't even let someone without a home have a word) and billions contend with starvation (what the privileged euphemistically often refer to as "food scarcity").

But hey, more manned missions to orbit the Moon and uhh, Starlink and other complete wastes of taxpayer money continue unabated! It's abhorrent.

For a "major plot point" it sure got ignored in the movie pretty quickly. Pitch Meeting barely paid lip service to the whole thing with a:

"How can they be sure it's not fake?"
"Mr. Terrific tells Superman he knows the guy that verified this and they're legit."
"What, couldn't Lex have bribed or threatened them?"
"Impossible! Get all the way off my back about that!"

In other words, I didn't think it was very satisfactorily resolved either, and apparently we weren't the only ones, but hey Lex was the bad guy all along at the end!  All's well that ends well or something?

Maybe they were throwing a bone to the Rule 34 crowd? Though I'd guess Superman fandom probably already has superfluous amounts of that stuff already?

(Not that I've looked. Doubtlessly, the chances of that subset of "fans" turning a Superman world domineering master race eugenics breeding program ordained by his biological Kryptonian parents into a vaguely heartwarming harem anime comedy such as 君のことが大大大大大好きな100人の彼女「kimi no koto ga dai dai dai dai daisuki na hyaku-nin no kanojo」"The 100 Girlfriends Who Really, Really, Really, Really, Really Love You" are pretty slim, but that would be an approach I would take if I were held at gunpoint. Thankfully? I haven't been particularly close to the Superman franchise since my deceased maternal aunt stopped working for Warner Bros. [she was their VP in the 1980s, later VP at Paramount and the irony that those companies may be merging probably now has her rolling in her grave]. The last related thing I recall back in those days was when she showed my sister and me a screener of the 1984 Supergirl a year or two before it got a theatrical release on her home 3/4" U-Matic VTR [at least I think that's what it was? It was enormous and sure as heck wasn't VHS or Betamax] where most of it was still black & white with wires visible dailies' cuts in the later to be FXed scenes.)

The comic this was based on was pretty good.

This is definitely doing the comics thing of "you know what this thing about Supergirl needs? We absolutely need to shoehorn in another character from the franchise in here. How about Lobo?"

I fell off the Ms. Marvel comics real hard because I think in the second issue, they needed to bring in Wolverine for some reason, and then also the Inhuman dog, and I realized that I just wanted to read about Ms. Marvel, not an advertisement for every fucking character Marvel has ever put to paper.

In reply to Terra.

Eh, many of the things Sapce X claims are fictional. You'd think that would nix an IPO, but we apparently the grim meathook future is preceded by the very stupid present.

Supergirl trailer song. It’s on the China Beach soundtrack.

The throwaway line in her flick'll probably try to make her the Krypton-equivalent of white-passing mixed-race or somethin' because Jor-El's brother married "one of those people", which didn't fit with Jor-El's "blue blood" mentality.

I thought Supes 2025 was... okay. It was less "set up this interconnected universe" and more "Stay tuned for Peacemaker Se.2, coming up next!" I guess I liked it better than the MCU's Fantastic Four (though I dug Galactus), but neither needs a second watch-through.

I'm indifferent to the Supergirl trailer. I am not feelin' the trailer for the Lanterns TV show at all; they made it into an Earth-based CSI knock-off shot like True Detective? Pass.

Well, she was drunk a lot.

I'm looking forward to a throw-away line (Superman has a cameo, apparently) where Supergirl explains: "Oh yeah, that was Uncle Jor and Aunty Lara for you. They were just like that. Couldn't invite them to Klordny Festival dinners or anything."

Given the recent buzz around SpaceX's IPO, I cannot tell you what a relief it was to read a post entitled "Space Nazis" that turned out to be about a work of fiction.